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We are proudly announcing ADOX D-76.
It is the newest product from our powder line.
The Kodak “Developer-76” recipe is a photography legend next to Rodinal, gaining almost universal recognition as the go-to developer for photojournalistic work during the WWII and post war era.
D-76 is a universal, easy-to-use developer with a multitude of applications with the most different films and contrast situations, always delivering fine grain and great speed-utilisation.
ADOX took the classical formula and, while keeping all the important original properties and developing times, brought it up to the modern standards. The new ADOX D-76 has significantly lower dissolving temperatures, as well as the Captura® technology for dust-free mixing. Additionally, all the borates were removed and replaced with a non-toxic biodegradable buffer. The ADOX D-76 powder developer is made in Germany, with both research and post-production quality control carried out on site. The product is available in 1l and 5l packs.
The ADOX D-76 developer can be used exactly like the Kodak D-76, with the already-published D-76 times, dilutions and factors.
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Something I may be interetsed in given the price increases of D76 and ID-11. I'll keep an eye out for UK stockists.
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Rodinal and D76 are the two fundamental developers for me. Glad to see Adox has both on the catalogue.
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This is good to see - what is the expected stability of the powder in its packaging?
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This is great, I was getting concerned with my supply of D-76
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madsox said:
This is good to see - what is the expected stability of the powder in its packaging?
We cannot say this at this point. The product has not been on the market long enough. Theoretically it should not be inferior to what has been sold in the last two years by our competitors. There are many things you can do wrong in manufacturing photochemistry. We are confident we do everything right but with every new product you need verification of this assumption, so answering you a number would be reading the glass bowl.
Our oldest storage tests date back 6 months now.
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FWIW, powder chemicals, even mixtures like developer packets, generally have a very good record for shelf life while the packets are sealed. I've mixed Dektol and Xtol that were more than ten years past the expiration printed on the bags, with no problems.
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Donald Qualls said:
FWIW, powder chemicals, even mixtures like developer packets, generally have a very good record for shelf life while the packets are sealed. I've mixed Dektol and Xtol that were more than ten years past the expiration printed on the bags, with no problems.
Thank you for your efforts!
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Donald Qualls said:
FWIW, powder chemicals, even mixtures like developer packets, generally have a very good record for shelf life while the packets are sealed. I've mixed Dektol and Xtol that were more than ten years past the expiration printed on the bags, with no problems.
Good info, thanks - I know I've heard of some issues specifically with developers, with people saying they're more sensitive than some other chemicals and break down on a shorter timescale.
I especially like the Adox packaging in 1l increments, that's a lot better for me than having to mix up a whole gallon at a time.
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@ADOX Fotoimpex Thank you for bringing this product to the market. Quick question: since this is a D76 equivalent developer, which datasheet do you recommend for determining the starting times: Ilford's or Kodak's? It is well known that D76 and ID-11 have different times for some films like HP5+.
I realize that I am asking a question about someone else's products, but just in case you've looked into it.
Thank you.
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Steven Lee said:
which datasheet do you recommend for determining the starting times: Ilford's or Kodak's?
This was answered in the first post in this thread:
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ADOX D-76 developer can be used exactly like the Kodak D-76, with the already-published D-76 times, dilutions and factors.
I'd add to this that any published development time is a starting point; individual workers will need to adjust for their own preferences in final negative condition. Variations in water, thermometers, agitation scheme, exposure metering methods, and printing/scanning techniques can make more difference in the final "perfect" time/temperature combination than the difference between D-76 and ID-11.
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Huge advantage is the Captura technology. The speed of dissolution is amazing. No dust in your space.
No doubt that this is a new product, new option, actually new and improved.
Don't buy to store
Easy mixing, No dust!
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Donald Qualls said:
This was answered in the first post in this thread
Maybe I wasn't clear... my question was basically about an explanation for ID-11 vs Kodak D76 datasheets, from the point of a real chemical manufacturer. Sorry, it's probably off-topic.
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Steven Lee said:
my question was basically about an explanation for ID-11 vs Kodak D76 datasheets, from the point of a real chemical manufacturer. Sorry, it's probably off-topic.
It's not off topic. The current Kodak D76 data sheet has incorrect times for pretty much every film. This was very firmly established in another thread. The times listed on the data sheets for the individual films are correct.
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Maybe I wasn't clear... my question was basically about an explanation for ID-11 vs Kodak D76 datasheets, from the point of a real chemical manufacturer. Sorry, it's probably off-topic.
What we can chip in to this is that we do not target publications from Kodak. We took a few bags of the latest version of D-76 from Sino Promise and made ours match the curves that this developer produced on the spot. So we can say that it works exactly like the last Sino Promise (Kodak license- branded) D-76. This does NOT mean that we verified all Kodak published times or publications. Neither did we compare it to ID-11.
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ADOX Fotoimpex said:
We took a few bags of the latest version of D-76 from Sino Promise and made ours match the curves that this developer produced on the spot.
Then that means it should work just like it's supposed to according to the Kodak film sheets (not the Sino D76 sheet).
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@ADOX Fotoimpex and @Don_ih thank you!
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If you have problems comprehending geologic timescales, just think about how many epochs it took to dissolve all that borax before the lake dried up and they hitch'd the team of mules.
Buffers aside, I prefer a more soluble alkaline for DIY mixing, so kudos to Adox
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Borax is a convenient alkali for mixing from scratch, if you live somewhere you can buy it easily (I can get a kilo or so any time the local supermarket is open -- and there has been plenty of confirmation that the 20 Mule Team product is pure enough for most photographic uses). In EU, that's apparently not the case.
The (unspecified) buffering system that Adox has developed also has the advantage of holding pH better than original D-76 (Kodak's commercial product has managed this for some decades as well). If you mix your own D-76 according to the original published formula, you'll find the activity increases for a week or so after mixing (due to pH rising).
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Why did the strong man lift 100 lb. bags of Borax? He heard it would make him buffer!
Great addition to the product line BTW (D-76). Is XT-3 coming back to Freestyle?
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Why did the strong man lift 100 lb. bags of Borax? He heard it would make him buffer!
And he got them free from Germany, because there Borax is classified as a GIFT!
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JPD said:
And he got them free from Germany, because there Borax is classified as a GIFT!
Well composed. Yes this is a strange almost blackly humorous word for it if you are English speaking
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Yup, that was well played @JPD @markjwyatt
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Well composed. Yes this is a strange almost blackly humorous word for it if you are English speaking
In Swedish "gift" means poison and being married.
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Donald Qualls said:
FWIW, powder chemicals, even mixtures like developer packets, generally have a very good record for shelf life while the packets are sealed. I've mixed Dektol and Xtol that were more than ten years past the expiration printed on the bags, with no problems.
"While the packets are sealed". This was the achilles heel of some Kodak chemistry a while back.
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